The Eikon Podcast

Please consider supporting this podcast by going to: https://www.patreon.com/eikonpodcastJoin Michael Burns (biblical teacher, author, and speaker), Jason Alexander (pastor, speaker), and Gianna Hearn (journalist, host of "The Weekly G" video news magazine of the NBA G-League) for a fun, lively, and relevant examination of biblical texts, emphasizing their historical and cultural context with an eye on applying those principles into the mess of modern life. To submit questions, or suggestions, or give feedback contact us at eikonpodcast@gmail.com. If you're a new listener. Welcome and thank you. We recommend that you start listening to season 4, episode 93. After you're caught up to the present, we suggest that you then go back and explore the first 3 seasons when the podcast was still called "All Things to All People with Michael Burns."

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S8E258 - Reasons to Leave

April 13, 2026 • Michael Burns

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Gianna, Michael, and Jeff discuss the appropriate reasons for leaving a church. They delve into topics like scriptural authority, toxic leadership, and the importance of shared service in the church, all framed through real-life examples and recent conversations.

00:00 - Welcome and episode overview

10:15 - The importance of joining groups and serving in the church body

11:14 – Responding to a listener email

30:00 - The dangers of misinformation and the Dunning-Kruger effect

31:37 - Recognizing the importance of context and proper authority in biblical interpretation

36:17 - Three categories for leaving a church: loss of scriptural foundation, toxic leadership, lack of service

54:58 - Nuanced listening: different responses when members raise concerns

59:37 - Practical advice for timing and respectful dialogue with church leaders

61:50 - Family, generational shifts, and leadership styles across age groups